bluehash 1,581 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Sounds good for MSP430 applications... $36 a battery , unit price. ouch! 0.7mah Maybe stack them in parallel? EFL700A39 Rechargeable 200um Paper Thin Battery tripwire 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 That's neat. Maybe when it's closer to $3.60/battery .... But still, neat tech! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fred 453 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 I saw that in an email I just received from ST and thought it sounded impressive. It didn't mention the price though! I guess if you really need (rather than just want) paper thin then you'd be happy to pay that. spirilis 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpnorair 340 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 There was a company called "Infinite Power Solutions" that used to make a battery like this, and which pioneered the technology. Actually, the technology was pioneered at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, but the guy from Oak Ridge founded IPS. IPS raised enough money to build a nice factory in Colorado (I've been there!), but things didn't really work out for them. For ST to license the tech from Oak Ridge and then to spend 3 years developing it (this project has been going for 3 years, but you couldn't buy it until now), indicates to me that they have some particular customer in mind. Maybe the ESA or something like that. My opinion of the Lithium-Thin-Film battery is that Li-Poly technology is very nearly as good, at this point, and it is a whole-lot cheaper. For doing energy harvesting, ST is also releasing SPV1050, which competes with the BQ25504 from TI, but it is a lot cheaper. Both of these chips work to charge Li-Poly AND Lithium-Thin-Film batteries from sources like solar, piezo, etc. I have tested all these combinations Automate, spirilis, bluehash and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12kman 0 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hi jpnorair seems you have lots of insights about this thin film ...I also tested ADP5090 with it, it works great! besides the price, the battery itself also felt rigid and not likely bend easily. a little bit disappointed on the battery. do you know any Li-Poly Thin-Film battery which is more flexible and cheaper? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpnorair 340 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 Hi jpnorair seems you have lots of insights about this thin film ...I also tested ADP5090 with it, it works great! besides the price, the battery itself also felt rigid and not likely bend easily. a little bit disappointed on the battery. do you know any Li-Poly Thin-Film battery which is more flexible and cheaper? "Lithium Thin Film" is a technology, not a description (this is confusing). It uses semiconductor manufacturing techniques to build the lithium ion battery onto a silicon substrate, so it is not flexible. Lithium polymer technology builds the battery on a polymer substrate. The distributor Powerstream (powerstream.com) is the best place to look for LiPoly, and I believe they distribute some thin, flexible models of LiPoly. 12kman and spirilis 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12kman 0 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 "Lithium Thin Film" is a technology, not a description (this is confusing). It uses semiconductor manufacturing techniques to build the lithium ion battery onto a silicon substrate, so it is not flexible. Lithium polymer technology builds the battery on a polymer substrate. The distributor Powerstream (powerstream.com) is the best place to look for LiPoly, and I believe they distribute some thin, flexible models of LiPoly. thanks for the clarification! I also interested in Thin film flexible PV cell, do you have any suggestions? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jpnorair 340 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 thanks for the clarification! I also interested in Thin film flexible PV cell, do you have any suggestions? Flexible PV is hard to buy in low quantity. Panasonic/Sanyo is a major supplier, but you need to be a quantity buyer. Their product line is called "Amorton." ST is supposed to be ready soon with its own flexible PV line, but I expect it will also have quantity restrictions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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