mpymike 18 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I like this inductance sensor a lot. A really sensitive metal detector springs to mind (mpy powered of course) But I see the dev board is $30, if it were sub $10 then it would be a game changer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think if I really wanted to play with that stuff, $30 isn't much to ask. Might be interesting to find specific uses for this and make a suitable boosterpack though Sent from my Galaxy Note II with Tapatalk 4 pine 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpymike 18 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Yes a boosterpack would be great. Upon closer inspection the MSP430F5528 on the dev board is not easily programmable, none of the jtag/sbw pins are hooked up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDirty 33 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Use the coupon and it's $4 right now. http://forum.43oh.com/topic/4371-ti-estore-25-coupon-until-30-sept-2013/ Inductive sensors aren't anything new, but I've never seen them implemented as anything but basic proximity sensors before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PenguinInfinity 0 Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 sorry, please ignore this post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hlipka 11 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I had first go on the EVM (it arrived on tuesday): http://blog.hendriklipka.de/archives/2013/09/ldc1000_test.html This sensor is really sensitive (and accurate), but it is intended for small distances. So anybody thinking about using it as a metal detector will be disappointed. simpleavr, bluehash and tripwire 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
simpleavr 399 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I would be interest to know the power consumption of this device. As it can define what role the device can play. I.e. Will it be possible to put it in use as a bug type battery operated wireless sensor? A casual read on documentations shows the "analog" part is 5V though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hlipka 11 Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 The data sheets states "1.7mA" plus the LC tank current. So it seems to be OK when its not always on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpymike 18 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 @hilpka, Nice write up. I'm still waiting for mine. I assume you used the inductor on the EVM which is rather small for metal detector use. The detector distance is going to be related to the size of the coil. Large diameter and High-Q is probably what is needed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hlipka 11 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yes, I used the supplied PCB coil only. But I also looked at the WEBENCH tool for the LDC1000. When you try to calculate coils to detect 1cm copper object, you get at most a distance of about 6cm (though the tool only goes up to 7cm distance). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tripwire 139 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ...the first two spikes I saw were due to some SMD components (0805 capacitors) hidden in the carpet. Hang on... A $30 detector for electronic components dropped on the carpet? Now that really *is* game changing! cde, OppaErich and GeekDoc 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluehash 1,581 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I had first go on the EVM (it arrived on tuesday): http://blog.hendriklipka.de/archives/2013/09/ldc1000_test.html This sensor is really sensitive (and accurate), but it is intended for small distances. So anybody thinking about using it as a metal detector will be disappointed. Nice writeup. If you have any more interesting projects with it, let us know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hlipka 11 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I got some feedback from TI about my article. One of their product experts told me that, for a more general metal detector, one either needs a larger coil or should add a ferrite backing to it. So I did some more experiments, though not with a larger coil (so the results are not as good as they should be). I need to go into the coil winding business... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
abecedarian 330 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 @@hlipka maybe try an element from an electric stove? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpymike 18 Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Got my EVM and spent yesterday winding a coil and playing around with it. On the whole this is a great little peripheral and very suitable for close proximity detection. but as a metal detector it suffers too much from pickup and interference First I split the EVM into controller, LDC1000 and coil adding 0.1" header connectors. The controller to LDC1000 needed a 5x2 header which made it unfriendly for direct plugging into a breadboard. I then wound a 15cm coil suitable for a metal detector, 50 turns of 26awg magnet wire wound on the bottom of a plastic bottle. I measured L = 930uH and resonated at 28kHz with a 3.7nF cap. The unloaded Q was 43. (wire from a degaussing circuit from an old style CRT tv/monitor could be used instead) Unfortunately the coil picks up a lot of interference which you can see as ripple when looking at the envelope of the voltage across the coil. This results in considerable variation in the frequency count data and in the Rp proximity data. I adjusted the Fmin, Rpmin, Rpmax register settings and the filter cap value so I was sure that the circuit was operating correctly as per the datasheet. Even ignoring the interference I suspect the resonating frequency is too low compared with the LDC1000 oscillator gain control loop timing which is reducing the effective resolution of the proximity data. In a regular metal detector interference is filtered out by various means, unfortunately the LDC1000 is a complete control system with limited ablity to modify things. RobG and bluehash 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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