zborgerd 62 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'm going to use this price increase as an excuse to find something better. I've long put up with all the warts on the msp430 because of the price. At $4.30 I felt like it needed a hand from the community to let it shine. At $9.99 you are just taking advantage of the work the rest of us have done for free. Things I used to like about the msp430: $4.30 with hardware debugger Things that have bugged me from day one, that I put up with because the price was $4.30 o Lack of Linux or Mac support o CCS v4 based on some ancient version of Eclipse and full of plugins that made it dog slow and unreliable o Size limited CCS o Lack of launchpad CCS support on linux o The tiusb3410 9600 baud limited linux nightmare of a usb -> serial interface o lack of dip chips beyond 16k/512bytes o Booster pack stupidity, o Lack of standardization for the pin layouts. o Couldn't even figure out some standard pins for SPI/I2C/UART o Different chips use different pins for spi , uart , i2c o Can't use i2c/spi and hw UART at the same time o no 5 volt available from USB connection o Spending all my time on these forums trying to explain why the Serial port doesn't work o Wondering why they launched it with a 2k chip with no hardware UART when they were trying to make it look like an Arduino and then being surprised when people bought them and put them in a drawer until Energia emerged. o Having to explain to people why an msp430g2231 really isn't the same as an atmega328 and how to get around the fact that there is no hardware uart so you have to juggle to be able to send serial commands to a g2231 while running a servo code both using the timer chip o not enough ram on the chips to do useful things with sdcards or graphics displays o msp430 chips get expensive in low quantities once you leave the value line o msp430 chips don't really compete on a performance or price basis to ARM or PIC chips other than with the value line chips. So you can waste a lot of time learning the architecture only to find out that doing real world things with them is probably not the smartest decision. o It is actually very difficult to source msp430 chips. It took about 1 year after I got my first msp430g2553 before I started seeing them available on http://octopart.com To be honest, now I don't care I really want a dip chip version of a FRAM chip as that is really the only useful msp430 chip. o Confusing licensing schemes with regard to USB code and the msp430f5510. I decided to not try and figure out the lawyerese and just use another usb solution after trying to get an answer on e2e.ti.com So did TI fix any of those problems? No, the community did. How does TI repay the community .. "Thanks, we got it. We'll take it from here. Oh, BTW the price is going up!" your welcome! -rick You forgot one: - TI's lack off an effort in truly contributing to MSPGCC and MSPDebug or its developers. (By the way - I'd like to thank Peter Bigot, Daniel Beer, and everyone else who's worked on these projects with little help from TI). This ties into the community doing all of the work, again, for projects like Energia to emerge. Big thanks to the Energia developers as well! roadrunner84, spirilis, xpg and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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