roadrunner84 466 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Spy-Bi-Wire broken out. Hmmmm Do your hacker fingers tickle too? bluehash 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maelli01 74 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 What is the model name? Thanks for the pics. It is was a Busch & M bluehash 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pneumatics 2 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Interesting tear down. I did DIY bicycle tail lamp using MSP430 back in 2011. Still working. Using 2xAA Alkaline cells. Running for more than 3 months in the battery. 3x4 red LEDs. BC107 transistors. One push button switch. Sleep in LPM4. LED driving from PWM. I have't measured the currents. 20 uA is too much! tripwire 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roadrunner84 466 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 @@pneumatics Looks very similar to the IKEA toy kitchen modification I did. but that sports two sets of 3 LEDs and two push buttons. It sleeps in LPM4 too. The toy has a timeout of about one minute though, which I made using the watchdog timer and LPM3. I go back to LPM4 when the watchdog timer is not used anymore (ie: when no LEDs are on). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pneumatics 2 Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 @@roadrunner84 Nice. I am from India, no idea what a IKEA toy kitchen is. Any links to your project?. Hope you are also a low power maniac! @@maelli01 the pads are gold plated, right? still gets corroded? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maelli01 74 Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Bike light follow-up: reverse engineering time! here is my almost complete circuit diagram. IC1 is a voltage regulator: 2.5V, exact type I could not find out. Only the MSP runs on the regulated voltage, all the rest runs from the raw battery voltage. Voltage divider R2 1M / R3 330K measure the battery voltage (some microamps get lost here) LED2 and 3 are indicator (red/green) LED1 is the power led PWM is 20kHz, coming from pin 11 of the MSP. Main switch is a Si4562, N and P channel 20V 5A mosfet. Inductor is 100uH. Instead of using only the upper fet, they alternately switch on the upper / lower FET, avoiding one diode voltage drop, increasing effiency. The circuitry around IC3 (a weird CMOS 4572) creates a small dead time (less than a microsecond) to avoid cross-conduction. Note the resistors in the signal path ;-) They managed to regulate the LED current without a shunt resistor. Took me some time to find out how: The voltage across the inductor is low-pass filtered, R14 390k / C4 0.1u, then fed into the MSP. Of course the DC-part of the inductor voltage depends on the current flow. Pretty clever. The regulation is rather slow (ramp-up of current is so slow it is actually visible). The circuitry around Q8 and Q9 takes care of the battery charge turn on/off. Input is from a wall-wart adaptor which is 500mA constant current type. R10/R11 tell the MSP that external voltage is present. bluehash, tripwire and gsutton 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pneumatics 2 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Nice work reverse engineer I'm not that much familiar with buck/boost converters. So I could not understand the inductor part. So we will leave it aside for the time . I have a question. The light has 4xAA cells, right? So can we tap from 3V (ie 2xAA) point and power the MSP? I'm (planning to) doing that in my working project. I dont know whether it is correct. The drawback i'm seeing is that the battery may drain unequally. But uA and nA counts for Alkaline cells? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maelli01 74 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 sure you can power an MSP430 from 2 AA cells. The unequal power drain should be manageable for a hobby project. However, for a "product" it is probably not a too good idea: - what happens when inserting / removing batteries? - 2 cells discharged during months, 2 others not, might be o.k. for alkalines, but for long term using Nimh? I do not know. - The MSP can use the internal reference for battery voltage measurement. You have to check the datasheet whether the 1.5V reference works when 2 cells are at the end of life. - you might also check for wrong polarity. The german clever designers solved this issue mechanically. It does not give contact when in wrong direction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
vinicius.jlantunes 50 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I was watching Dave Jones video about the smart tweezers I've been wanting to buy, and it has got an MSP430 in there. agaelema and Fmilburn 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
agaelema 39 Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 Teardown Tuesday: Kwikset SmartCode Lock http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/teardown-tuesday-kwikset-smartcode-lock/ tripwire, Fmilburn, RobG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pneumatics 2 Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Nice find There you see an MSP430G2231. I did not figure out what it does. Looks like some ADC and digital out functions Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 630 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Philips Hue Tap, a wireless light switch without battery, featuring a MSP430FR5730 Teardown by Adafruit, with the MSP430 discovered at the 15 minute mark. https://youtu.be/4T4nhuobjZM?t=875 This device doesn't have a battery, but uses a mechanical, relais-like component to generate power when the user pushes buttons. https://www.enocean.com/en/enocean_modules/eco-200/ dubnet, tripwire, Fmilburn and 2 others 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bluehash 1,581 Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Now that is some cool usage of energy harvesting. Thanks @@chicken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 630 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Here's a MSP430F413 in a cheap (< US$100) radar speed gun http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/teardown-tuesday-radar-gun/ I'm surprised how little analog and digital processing there is in this product.. I guess all the RF magic happens inside the transceiver module (which is available at Mouser for $50). bluehash and spirilis 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chicken 630 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Another MSP430, this time it's a MSP430FR5739 running the Ring "smart" doorbell The full teardown is documented here: https://www.exploitee.rs/index.php/Ring_Doorbell I was a bit surprised to only have a "lowly" MCU in a device that streams video over WiFi. But it looks like a specialized IC by Omnivision (OV788) and the WiFi module (GainSpan GS2011M) do the grunt work. The MSP430 probably just waits for someone to press the button and then turns on LED driver, camera and WiFi. See this dev kit by the vendor of the WiFi module. http://www.gainspan.com/products/gs_adk_aek_videoov720p The wonders of integration. TI has a similar app note pairing the OV788 with a CC3200. http://www.ti.com/lit/ug/tiduck9/tiduck9.pdf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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