spirilis 1,265 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Here's a boosterpack breaking out the FTDI FT230X, a simple USB-UART adapter chip (similar to the FT232RL but with less crap, also less cost). Should allow custom UART speeds and good driver support to have your MSP430 talk to any computer. Compatible with 20-pin or 40-pin XL LaunchPads, for 20-pin LP's just ignore the 21-30/31-40 headers. Uses a Mini-B USB port. Includes 250mA Voltage Regulator for powering the project completely off this board's USB connection. The RTS, CTS, CBUS0-3 lines are all broken out to a header and breakout pads are there for all 40 pins of an XL-size LaunchPad. Breakout pads for RX, TX are there plus jumpers to connect/disconnect the UART lines--plus these can be installed transverse like the v1.5 launchpad, enabling Software UART pinout like the pre-1.5 launchpad chips instead. TX, RX LEDs attached to CBUS1 & 2 by default. All references to "TX" and "RX" are from the standpoint of the MCU, not the FTDI chip FYI. So the "TX" pad goes to the RXD pin on the FT230X, the "RX" pad goes to the TXD pin. Likewise CBUS2 defaults to TXLED# but it routes to the "RX" LED, vice versa for TX. Datasheet for the FT230X: http://www.ftdichip....s/DS_FT230X.pdf Bill of Materials: USB port - Wurth 651005136521 Mouser link R1, R2 - 1K 0603 SMD resistors R3, R4 - 22R 0603 SMD resistors TX, RX LED - 0603 SMD LEDs C3, C4, C5, C6 - 0603 0.1uF SMD ceramic capacitors C1 - 1206 4.7uF SMD ceramic capacitor C2 - 1206 10uF SMD ceramic capacitor C7, C8 - 47pF 0603 SMD ceramic capacitors RG1 - TI LDO voltage regulator, TPS77301 U3 - FTDI FT230XS (SSOP-16) F1 - nanoSMD fuse, PTC resettable 0.5A 13.2V - Mouser link First, pics (OSHpark mockup): Top- Bottom- Second, schematic: DipTrace Schematic - FTDI_FT230X_BoosterPak_draft2.pdf And last but not least, gerbers: OSHpark gerbers: OSH_FT230X_BPak.zip Seeed/ITeadStudio gerbers: Seeed_FT230X_BPak_5x5.zip This is a 5cmx5cm board (49x49mm) FYI. I am going to have a short run of these made, probably as an order-stuffer with my next Seeed order, then assemble them for the 43oh store. Automate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobG 1,892 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Where do you get your FT230Xs? I have some (backordered) in my Mouser cart for months now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 I haven't got any yet..... so that is good to know! Hmm. Sent from my C3PO via Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 26, 2012 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 Guess that FT232RL bpak I made will be good for something then. --- Well then again mouser lists early Jan for first deliveries so it'll take almost as long to get PCBs anyhow. I'm planning to make a Seeed order Dec 1 or so. Rob- Do you already have a bpak in the works for this? Sent from my C3PO via Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 These guys seem to have some: http://www.futureelectronics.com/en/technologies/semiconductors/signal-interface/usb/Pages/3019074-FT230XS-U.aspx?IM=0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RobG 1,892 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 No, no BP, just want to make few USB-UART cables. These guys seem to have some: http://www.futureele...0XS-U.aspx?IM=0 Nice, but I need XQ and they don't have other stuff I need from Mouser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Ah k, gotcha... Well this will be a low-priority project for me, probably take until mid-late January to get them built if the parts are hard to come by. Mainly hurried to get the board ready for the Seeed order I'm doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
plazma 3 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 IIRC some FTDI chip model was recalled because of a silicon bug. That caused the shortage. RobG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 IIRC some FTDI chip model was recalled because of a silicon bug. That caused the shortage. You are right, just found this: http://forums.parallax.com/archive/index.php/t-138873.html Avoid chip revisions B and C. Sent from my C3PO via Tapatalk RobG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Hey look at that, apparently I missed the requirement for the series resistors on the USB DM/DP lines too... Updated gerbers/schematic/pics coming. I don't think I'm going to bother with the 47pF caps they mention though. (As someone on the parallax thread mentions, USB cable's capacitance eclipses that easily). I may change the 5V VBUS big cap from 10uF to 4.7uF too since I've read USB inrush current should be limited... edit: Although, I could probably guess why the 47pF's are there, probably for impedance matching (reducing reflections on the main USB line before the signals hit those resistors)... So I'll put them in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 Original post updated, flipped the position of LDO_EN/LDO_RST jumpers, added two 22R resistors (I don't have any 27's in my stash but I'd read that 22R is typically used with USB) and two 47pF ceramic caps on the USB port-side of the lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 FYI, I updated the gerbers to change the ground plane-to-border clearance to ~0.4mm instead of 0.1 ... OSHpark in particular needs a minimum of 15 mils (~0.381mm) trace-to-board edge clearance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 fwiw, Mouser seems to have the FT230XS back in stock already, I have an order of 12 on the way this week... (knock on wood it's the corrected edition) RobG 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheDirty 33 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 With this board as well. There's lots of room to put all the components on a single side. Unless there's a reason I don't see here, populating just one side makes it easier to produce these and debug them if anything goes wrong. Your decoupling capacitors should be as close to the pin on the chip as is reasonable. I'm having trouble tracing your power path as well, but it looks like C3, which I assume is a decoupling cap for the FTDI chip is on the other side of the chip from the power via. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spirilis 1,265 Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Hmm well, using both sides has just been my approach... I guess moving from single-sided DIY boards to double-sided fab-built has me spoiled and looking to use the 2nd side as much as possible. I personally don't mind populating both sides by hand, it doesn't bother me one bit, but I know single-sided components is necessary for mass production (pick & place + reflow soldering). Will keep that in mind for the next design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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